Tess, Alice: We didn't get to look at this yet

Sangwhan: I actually did...

... This is another WebView API, analogous to Portals. We seem to have two competing things that are trying to show a webpage from a different origin, in a browsing context that is almost but not quite an iframe.

... Reviving one of these IE specials... use case seems to be for payments. Modal dialog which is a weird pop-up iframe, you can message back and forth, on top of your current document. Sort of not great.

... significant overlap with Portals. I don't understand why they're not being developed together. API just opens a web page in a "modal dialog".

.. IE modal dialog blocked execution of main modal opener. This one doesn't do that but inherits the same strange design.

... Use case is valid, but ...

Hadley: Looking at the issue, looks like they're not convinced this is mature enough for tAG review. Started brainstorming at TPAC and haven't finished.

Sangwhan: I agree that this type of capability is missing, but this sdoesn't seem like the right solution.

Lukasz: Do they foresee any impact on visivble user interface (i.e. they link to showModalDialog)

Hadley: Are you suggesting we ask...?

Sangwhan: Could we suggest trying to align this effor with Portals?

Peter: Considering the feedback we gave to Kenji et al, regarding layers, it seems like there should be a common base class here if nothing else. They should definitely be talking.

Sangwhan: I'll write that down as a first response... other browser vendors aren't really fans of Portals, ...

Peter: Tess and Alice, want to do a breakout on this?

... Sangwhan, I've added you.

... bumping it two weeks.

Peter: Alice, Anything we should talk about here?

Lukasz: Security questionnaire looks very interesting. I think it's not finished yet. Look at the answer to parts 2, for example. Still .5 -- in progress. Not sure what long term implication of introducing this new context.

Alice: I see that Marcos had commented that he intended to have a look and needed a few days. Over to WICG discourse... I guess involved in that?

Alice: ? and Sangwhan also wanted to have a look... bump this for next week, and capture Lukasz's comments?

Alice: Comment if they want to finish filling out the security questionnaire?

Alice: ... I can do that if Lukasz isn't. Lukasz, did you want to comment about the security and privacy questionnaire, or shall I?

Lukasz: I can comment!!

Peter: Bump this to next week, when hopefully rest of the folks are here.

Tess: We talked about this a couple of weeks ago and wanted to do a breakout

Alice: I am sure that we actually did a breakout! It is less of a proposal for a specific API and more a feature that various APIs can use which is not spelled out by the explainer.

Tess: I will try to dig up what my comments were going to be and actually post them.

Dan: Some new comments from Marcos around user gesture.

Alice: this made me believe this is not a standalone API.

Dan: F2F

Tess: Sure